Justin Langer has picked the brains of Socceroos counterpart Graham Arnold on the eve of the second Ashes Test, continuing his trend of learning from outside the cricket bubble.
Arnold was a guest of honour at Lord's on Tuesday, when Steve Smith was among the Australians on deck for an optional training session.
Arnold wasn't in a position to offer counsel about whether Josh Hazlewood or Mitchell Starc should claim the final spot in the XI for the Test starting at 8pm AEST on Wednesday.
But the former Sydney FC mentor, who is checking in with his Europe-based players while plotting plans for Australia's World Cup qualifying campaign that starts in September, shared plenty of thoughts about professional sport.
Much of the discussion focused on how Arnold approaches dealing with so many clubs throughout the world and their managers, while attempting to ensure the Socceroos' interests aren't an afterthought.
Langer and his support staff have far more control and face-to-face time with their charges but there are some similarities, especially for those players on the fringe that spend plenty of time with their state and Big Bash League teams.
Good relationships with Indian Premier League outfits and other Twenty20 franchises can also benefit Cricket Australia in the long run.
"All the language is the same, obviously it's just a different sport. It's all about man management, communication and building a lot of trust within your players," Arnold said.
"The main purpose of (attending training) was obviously as a very proud Australian, to support the Australian cricket team.
"But also to catch up with Justin Langer and Steve Waugh."
Arnold's visit comes after Socceroos goalkeeper Mat Ryan attended Australia's training session at Lord's on Sunday.
Langer, who sits on the board of AFL club West Coast, has borrowed pages from other sporting playbooks in the past.
AFL coaches Alastair Clarkson and Chris Fagan both chewed the fat with Langer at the MCG on Christmas Eve last year, while he also learned plenty from former Hockeyroos coach Ric Charlesworth.
Appointing dual vice-captains came as a shock to many in the Australian and global cricket community but it's a common approach throughout the AFL.
Australian Associated Press